General Fandom Stuff

[karadinart]

I get annoyed when i see the PBS show on fanart and fanfiction reblogged to kudos from the fandom audience who don't seem to be bothered that the show only interviewed male fanwriters and artists, (even when a female fanartist's work was featured, they didn't speak with her) and didn't point out a majority of the art it displayed was by women - no credits for work shown at the end - only after a shit ton of complaints, did the producer make a 2nd episode with women's involvement. (but the first episode is still blogged the most) FAIL FAIL and still FAIL.

Trying to police fans at conventions, (is like herding cats) here is my take on it. You pay for a ticket, you get to ask whatever you want, however, that doesn't mean you will win the approval of the audience. It doesn't matter how much you love that ship, or how much you have invested in the show, no one topic or ship gets special snowflake treatment. Do you want approval from fellow fans? Or do you want the answer to your question (if the actor wants to address it?) Sometimes you don't get both.

Fanart and fanfiction have gone mainstream, to the point where these arenas now launch careers - what used to be an underground community now appears as a topic on mainstream entertainment shows, if you create the art, and write the fic, expect that your stuff might be picked up and spread around (without your permission) on (example) the Graham Norton Show. You can't make something and put it out on the internet and expect it to stay under the radar any longer. So you have the choice to keep it secret or publish and at least not damn yourself, you had fun.

Comments

[kinkthatwinked.livejournal.com]

Wow. I'm sorry, but whoever put that documentary together sounds like an asshole. When you consider the sheer amount of women artists and writers he had to pass right by to track down the handful of men who are also into this stuff. What did he do, specifically Google, "Men Who Slash?"

It's been nearly a decade since I've been to a convention, and I've never attended one for SPN, so I wouldn't know. It's really that bad, with shippers asking their ship-specific questions? Seems to me that there's only so many times and ways you can ask if Jared & Jensen are or were a couple. What kind of other stuff do they ask?

You mean there are still people left who don't realize that once you send something electronically (offensive e-mails, sexting pictures, etc.) you might as well be inviting the entire world to notice it? It's a shame the media can just snatch it up without so much as a "Written by" credit, but I suppose that's the risk we take.

[koshien.livejournal.com]

Only men can be nerds/fandom geeks. Women only humour the men to keep them happy, so it's all a pretence. That's why they have female cosplayers at conventions.

[karadin.livejournal.com]

I think the producer thought, oh this is a wonderful new 'trend' let's jump on it and for some reason, he equates fandom=nerds, geeks, male.


I think the place in SPN fandom where shipping questions get bad are Misha Collins events - because he's been willing to address the shippy side of the fandom, (Dean/Castiel) and he has a con persona that's snarky - but the last con he attended got out of hand when it came to people sexually harassing him, so the end result will probably be he stops taking those questions, or becomes more impersonal, which would really, really suck. Jared and Jensen don't get asked the shippy questions - unless it's Jensen a little bit about Dean/Cas, but J2 don't really address slash/shippy questions.

Every year some people get freaked out that someone has shown their idol the porny artwork or ridiculous fanfic they wrote, forgetting that when you meet this person, they will never attach the thing to you - unless you bring it up. Then the post notices 'don't show my fanart to people' while promoting it to hell and back on tumblr, lj, da, etc. So not much sympathy here.

[karadin.livejournal.com]

Yes of course! How could I forget? *eyeroll*

[koshien.livejournal.com]

A guy said that to my face whilst I was working at a con.

[karadin.livejournal.com]

Probably his own insecurity talking.

[koshien.livejournal.com]

In hindsight I should of invited him to the yaoi panel.

[stupid-drawings.livejournal.com]

'Oh yeah, I forgot about half the population. Well, I don't feel too bad because it was just National Women's Day, so you know, they have a day.' /sarcastic imaginings

I have a horrible feeling that women were not in the first episode, not because of any choice to intentionally exclude, but because our gender is that insignificant to the creators that they just forgot about us, despite half the population being female.

Also, I don't want my fanfiction being broadcast to the world. If I wanted that, I'd have gone to a publisher.

[ani-mama.livejournal.com]

That is annoying, since most of the fanwriters and artists I follow are female. I can only think of 2 male artists in the FFVII fandom, and I can't recall any male writers...