after raking in millions opening weekend

[karadinart]

I'ts going to be exciting to see if BvS drops the 2nd week in.

Due to overwhelming negative reaction to BvS, which came out a few days before the film (and almost all the tickets to BvS were sold in preorders) WB is considering how it will preview Suicide Squad.

I mean, gee kids, maybe make a better film? Are all the negative reactions simply because 'all the critics were influenced by the first reviews? Yet the reviews coming out night of the premiere were all good.

When I get reviewed on my work, if I see all reviewers remark on the same thing, (such as too long, makes no sense, damn dreamsequences) then I would take it as legit.

If all reviewers had different things to say, then I would not really worry about what they said.

I mean the only person who could really be hurt by negative reviews would be Synder, and going forward to direct Justice League. I doubt this would affect the actors, as most reviewers didn't have a problem with them.

Comments

[shadowfireflame.livejournal.com]

Have you gotten to see it yet? I haven't and after all these reviews I'll wait until it's out on DVD. The trailer didn't look good, but I had hoped the movie wouldn't be bad...looks like I was wrong!

[karadin.livejournal.com]

I didn't like what they did to Superman in Man of Steel, I didnt' care for what he did with Watchmen, (killed a franchise) so I was never going to pay hard cash for this in theaters, I may watch it sometime when it's free on tv (just to see how bad it gets)

[koshien.livejournal.com]

I can't really take the reviews for this movie seriously, it's turned into a laughable bandwagon of hate now.

29% critical review on rotten tomatoes okay from about 300 critics, and 44 at Meteoritic and those are the scores that everyone is focused on.

BUT the actual audience reviews

73% since release, average 3.8/5 at Rotten Tomatoes from 150,000 viewers
75% at IMDB from about 150,000 viewers
B grade at Cinemascore (Industry standard polling data)
74% at Metacritic (2000+ viewer reviews)

So what now?, everyone is wetting themselves with anticipation that it will tank or carry on doing well at the box-office in its second week to justify their stance on the movie's quality. The amount of shit I took for defending Iron Man 2 when critics panned it was stupid as is this crap is because I like Bats vs Supes.

What does bother me is how invested SOME Marvel fans who will never see the movie are in this circus, why?. So many negative reviews are from people with names "Spidey99", "MegaironmanMN" or "Deadpoolhatesu". As I said I really don't have a dog in Marvel vs DC race as there is good and crap in both franchises. None the less, bloody hell it's all knives out against anyone who dares to say they like the movie and the hate is from Marvel fans AND DC fans who don't like this particular flavour of Supes vs Bat.

I think that is very sad when for years we had no superheroes and now we are spoilt rotten! I can't bear infighting, years ago we were all friends who were united by our "sad hobby" of liking comic books, now it's all Marvel vs DC trad vs DC modern vs Comicbookcoders vs Indies vs Mainstream. Even at conventions now its turned to shit with rivalry.

[kinkthatwinked.livejournal.com]

Yes to this whole comment, especially the "laughable bandwagon of hate" for this movie and how the comic book community has "turned to shit with rivalry." Thank you.

[koshien.livejournal.com]

No, thank YOU. The amount of meanness and questioning of my interest in comics/movies in general has really hurt, all because I decided to like a movie that so many others have a huge investment in seeing fail.

I have no problem with the neutral people simply watching the circus, because it is quite fascinating. I'm grateful to Karadin for keeping me up to date with how things are going in the US because UK people seem much more positive on the whole. I am having trouble understanding why people who have no intention of even bothering to watch the film are so invested in the hate.

My ray of hope was that most people in the cinema cheered for both the Suicide Squad and Civil War trailers.

[karadin.livejournal.com]

when I bought comics as a kid back in the 70s there was a rivalry between DC and Marvel, so I'm not surprised it's still going, and kids argued about it during recess, and for years DC had the good movies, when Marvel didn't have anything.

The audience reviews on Rotten Tomatoes started in the 90s before the movie came out (because a lot of people were reviewing before they saw it) and now it's come to 73% which is I think what fans think of it, not great, but not bad, and it is odd that reviews are coming in so bad, when most reviewers think BvS is better than Man of Steel, and that is about 51% at RT.

I think everyone watches movie ratings for a big hyped film to see what will happen, regardless if they will see the film or not (50 Shades of Grey) and it's time that will really tell if something's succeeded, but I do think a large part of the audience is frankly, really pissed that they've made Superman so dark, and even Batman darker, so that there's not a big difference between them, I mean, that was one of the reasons I stopped following DC movies.

[koshien.livejournal.com]

The rivalry mostly died down as comics died on their ass in the 80's, not a Miller worshipper by FAR, but the results that there are tons of superhero movies, a huge variety of comics of all types and people enjoying them without ridicule because of the rejuvenation caused by the revolution, it is well worth the price! Up until this movie, I honestly thought the DC/Marv rivalry crap had gone away - didn't take much to get people worked up again, it only started after Disney bought Marvel though for some reason.

In truth, people wanted to hate this film as soon as they heard the title. They didn't care if there was a reason or plot device, they shut down immediately. The trailer focusing on angry Supes and the idea that all of Metropolis hated him was bollocks, its just one angry, heavily manipulated one who is key to the plot. Having it marketed to them when they already hated it and wanted it to fail just pushed it over the edge.

It's all about the DARK, DARK, DARK rhetoric, but it's not as dark by FAR compared to the Nolan or even to a large extent the Burton films, but that's glossed over because apparently Heath Ledger and Nicholson were so awesome that their sick deeds are overlooked as "it's okay because they actors are good". And of course Supes wiping Lois's mind and having his evil side almost take over in the Reeve's movie was fine too, and the Routh Superman was nothing but a happy upper too, leaving his disabled kid to a life of misery. People really do look back with rose-tints don't they?

Bats and Supes fighting for a bit in ridiculous manga OTT style, stopping 10 mins later because they are motivated by love for their moms and then working together is just a step too far. I'd say the tone is much more serious than dark. Superman is serious, he is frustrated, he's also in love in an equal partnership, examining his purpose and loses that annoying bumbling Clark Kent bullshit to boot. If that makes him dark, dark, dark then I don't know why people bother watching movies at all if there is no contrast, it's boring.

Movie ratings seem to be srs bsns in the US, people give less creedence to them here, probably why I'm so bemused by all of this crap.

[karadin.livejournal.com]

oh yeah, I see the Nolan films as dark but coherent, though they weren't my cup of tea (I don't like Christian Bale AT ALL as Batman) and a switch from most DC fans, I thought Affleck would be fine as Batman)

I was a little bit disturbed that the Batman Returns movie was so skewed toward the Reeve Superman films instead of going in a new direction, because which young fans would want a sequel to a film that was 20 years old at that point? I don't remember hardly any of the film except for Superman catching a plane? did that happen?

I don't know how the internet DC Marvel rivalry thing has been going, but most people I know online right now like characters in both fandoms and aren't pro one side or the other, but more against a certain comic line, for example, I can't stand what Marvel has been putting out in the Captain America comics, (by that I mean aging him, not that they are letting Falcon be Cap)

I stick to my MCU Steve (and Avengers Assemble) and I love the Invincible Iron Man comic (so far)

[winterstar95.livejournal.com]

Well my opinion is okay good. I hope that it works for WB. It's not my kind of superhero fare, but I'm not the only fan in the world. I like my superhero movies lighter, but that doesn't mean a harder take on things will turn me away. I'm not dropping any money on this one because it doesn't seem like anything I should take my children to see. So I will wait it out, but I sure hope that we get a great WW film and I ready for that!!

[karadin.livejournal.com]

I think I'm already pre-disposed to not care about the WW film, even though she's one of my fave characters and I love Lynda Carter, they messed with her backstory, putting it in WW1, and I'm dubious how that's gonna work - for one thing it keeps Wondy from being invested in humanity for another hundred years instead of staying and fighting the good fight as she did in comics and in the tv show - and second, Chris Pine, urgh, I've never liked Chris Pine!