I think one of the most offensive things to me is that the comic is pretending to be 'politically relevant' and failing miserably.

The writer's take on the 'divide' in the country is to make Cap the mouthpiece of the right wing white supremacists? When Cap himself was an Irish immigrant when back in his day, the Irish were maligned as much as Muslims are now?

And FalconCap, being black, is going to stand for Liberal and Progressive views. Did anyone ask Sam about this? While Sam is liberal, he's also a vet, and some vet's have gone along with Trump's pandering - but there are surprise! Black people who support Trump.

Sam gets the old shield as a symbol! This was the hit you over the head with an anvil point of him being Cap? The end game will be Cap fighting Cap, until Cap makes Cap realize who he really is, (sigh) but the character is trashed for 6months to a year unless fan backlash hits Marvel and Disney HARD.

Captain America #1 had real relevance because the image of Cap punching Hitler on the cover came out a year before we entered the war, at a time when the US was isolationist, the authors then had death threats from right wing white supremacists and then the artists and authors went to fight real Nazis during the war. They were taking real risks artistically and personally.

Spencer and Co. just want people angry, they want to make a permanent mark (re:wound) on the character and to make money, when Cap is 75, and it's Memorial Day, and DC is releasing it's new lineup.

They could have had Cap be true to his character and really take a side in modern politics, (for Progressives) but no, it has to be a stunt, where the whole idea of Hydra as a Nazi org is 'made a blank slate' and we are supposed to support 'the lesser of two evils' what the ever loving fuck? There is no such thing as a kindler, gentler rascist group!

And Cap's mother Sarah gets maligned here, indoctrinating Steve into Hydra as a child, gee, the giant skull tentacle logo on their leaflets weren't a giveaway?

and I'm going by writer interviews here, this is what they said, if it was just common comic fuckupery, I wouldn't care.

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Date: 2016-05-27 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earthspirits.livejournal.com
I hate it when writers "re-invent" classic iconic good-guy characters to suddenly be evil (just to be edgy, I suppose?), stripping away everything that made the character great, and then expect readers to just sit back and be okay with it.

Marvel deserves a huge backlash for this blunder (and outrage) of a fucked-up plot line / character assassination. This is especially disgusting to release on Memorial Day when we honor fallen American soldiers - and on Cap's 75th anniversary. Especially since the character was invented back in the day as an American hero battling against evil and bigotry (which are true American values, not the other way around). Meh.

I also don't want to see a Cap vs Cap throw-down (a huge disservice to both original Cap and Sam). Hope Marvel does a 180 degree turn, and doesn't actually go there - but I suppose they will, since - "reasons" (i.e. lots of controversy to generate sales and big bucks - or so they hope).

*Edited by me to correct typos and to add to my original comment.
Edited Date: 2016-05-27 05:06 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2016-05-27 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karadin.livejournal.com
well, they've already released issue one, and have four more lined up for sale, probabaly already drawn up and complete.

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Date: 2016-05-27 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earthspirits.livejournal.com
That's a real shame, very sorry to hear this. Has there been much of a backlash from the general public and fans?

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Date: 2016-05-28 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karadin.livejournal.com
oh heck yeah, people throwing away or burning their Cap merch, people writing blogs about their kids crying, themselves crying, a lot of discussion that making Cap a Nazi is antisemetic due to how the character was created by Jewish authors, etc.

Marvel is trying to backpedal quickly by saying Hydra is (now supposed to be) an organization that has nothing to do with Nazis (even though it's origin in the comics certainly was and Hydra are Nazis in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which is what more people are familiar with)

but even then, Hydra is supposed to be 'bad' in the comics, so it's okay that it's less evil? the writers want us to sympathize with people who join racist organizations, but twisting Caps history to make him one of those people? Blech.

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Date: 2016-05-28 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] earthspirits.livejournal.com
That makes me sad and angry that so many folks have been upset and disappointed.

The original creator's of Cap's character would be outraged (as well they should be).

As you say - whether Hydra is Nazi - or some other shadowy terrorist group - evil is evil. There's no such thing as a "fuzzier less evil" evil when it comes down to this sort of thing. And because of the films' focus on the original Nazi angle with Hydra, I think most of us still associate this fictional terrorist group with that. Throwing Cap's character to the wolves this way is bad any way you slice it.

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